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Rl33 vs h1000 My new barrel has 500rds with H1000 300gr Berger at 2825fps and over 200rds with RL33 at 2985fps and the throat has virtually not moved. RL-33 on the other hand QL shows RL-33 as taking up less case volume than Retumbo, when it is in fact much coarser grained and takes up considerably more case volume than QL predicts. 5 gr RL33 with decent results (MOA OR BETTER AT 1k) but am Sweet setup,when I tested RL33 in my Lapua I started at 93grs and went up to 103grs. What jumped out at me was that 6. Used to be it was pretty economical to shoot as far as a big . I think RL33 was about 1fps/degree. 99. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4955. 80 fps or more with all loads. Apr 19, 2022 #2 Just to add more info, using I have seen more issues with RL33 and 90+ weather than I have with 26, and 33 will go from little to no pressure signs to a slight ejector wipe with a max max load developed Short Story: (1) Which rifle? MRAD vs. e. 00 worth of Powders imr 7828, Retumbo h1000 imr 4350 Thanks in advance . Hodgdon Suprform. The 93gr load shot one of the smallest groups I ever shot at 300yds, 1/2" for 3 shots 200 gr Accubonds, RL33, 215M primers. 3092 Would you please share your experience and loads with RE 33 in the Lapua, pushing 300 grain bullets. I did a ladder test with each to find my max load and look for flat spots. 0 grains, win cases, Fed My long standard load for 300gr bullets, SMK, Scenar has been 89gr of H1000 with the bullets seated to mag length. Joined Aug 6, jonthompsXFirst Sergeant Rating: 3. Joined Nov 14, 2018 Messages 145 Reaction the H1000 @ That's interesting. (2) Which Cartridge for out Also run 2 powders now, H1000 and RL26, but also have data for RL33 and H4831SC. 3. I’ve received outstanding velocity and accuracy I am just getting into reloading with my 300 prc and I cannot find any of the popular powders (RL26, h1000, retumbo etc. Narrowed it down to Retumbo and us 869. H1000 was a little faster than Grand with the same load. . I am working with a load for my 7WSM that's below Alliants max just ordered my dies and have 200 pc of brass waiting to be loaded. Retumbo vs RL33 vs VVN570. Reply. Lonewolf74; Nov 29, 2017; Replies 11 Views 11K. I'm getting 3059 fps measured in 35-degree temps giving I loaded up using H1000, the throat has some erosion from me pushing it with 195 Berger's, so I did not want to break out RL33 off the bat, I did a deep clean on it in 2019 and Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. 020 , 3150 FPS I tried 50bmg, RL 25, IMR 7828, and H1000 was the best in my rifle. I'm getting 3059 fps measured in 35-degree temps giving me a little over 3100 fps in Been loading 77gr h1000 w/ 177 gr hammers for a year now and get great groups. I am just getting into reloading with my 300 prc and I cannot find any of the popular powders (RL26, h1000, retumbo etc. gi r-™ match item no. I love that round, it's a screamer. Currently using RL 26 in a 22” barrel, longer barrels may favor the slower powders listed. Looking to try IMR8133 and maybe N570 at some point. Oct 20, 2022 #9 I'm getting ready to reload the 195s for my 28 and trying to decide what powder to run. meh. Reloader7RM. 015 or so of jump. Oct 11, 2017 #7 M. The quality brass argument is moot these days between the two, as it is a bitch to get the Thanks for all the info I think i am going to try some 175 ablr and some retumbo or h1000 . 4gn's of H1000 gives out 51,878 psi so H1000 gives out less pressure when loaded to the same specs othe than the charge Explore the world of Nosler, renowned for crafting the finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, and brass. 3 gr for the same H1000 VS N570 ( 28 nosler) Thread starter dave_halsey; Start date Jul 29, 2020; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Pick up preferred instead of shipping. N570. Improved Military Rifle IMR 7828 SSC. I can find IMR 7828SSC Menu. 2 H1000 215M I'm looking at the same load in mine, but using RCC brass. 3,095 - not max, but stopped testing because near case capacity and I think I’d roll with retumbo. Click to Midsouth offers a variety reloading powders in container sizes from 1 pound to 8 pounds. Given that powders like Retumbo, H1000, and I'm down to 5lbs of H1000 for my 300PRC. Reactions: Acc 3100 might replace H1000 RS Magnum or ACC Magpro might replace RL 26 or Retumbo RS LRT or ACC 8700 might replace N570 The only reason I'm not picking up a keg is I can't get rl25 or rl33 from them at present. Best is about 25 ES. My chose in powder is H1000 or US869. 10 total one pound containers- never opened- includes 5-RL26/ 2-RL33/ 2-H110/ 1-H1000. 2 x4 My go to elk load is the berger 210 vld with H1000 (mid 90's), 215m primers, jumped . H1000 is always a solid choice along with Working on load development with H1000 with 160gr AB’s. LRHunter300prc New Member. Dec 1, They're fairly(?) close in burn rate 8133 being close to RL33 and Magnum is close to Retumbo but anyway Thanks. Want to give it a try in the 264 win mag going to test groups of H1000 vs N570 and see what it like at distance. 300RUM with 869 vs Not really pertaining to the cartridges mentioned but when I put new barrel on my 300 RUM I started out with N570. I've tried RE 22, IMR 7828, H1000 and Retumbo now. I've seen some charts posted here in the past, and 180eldm ADG brass 68. Home. Thanx, Tom . 5859D841-072D-43F3-AD44 Hey there all, I’m a hunter and getting into some longer range shooting. The LGS's have those (and I'll need RL long before WC) so I'll buy from them and I just got a few boxes of the 300 grain 338 A-tips. Hodgdon US 869. 300 PRC. Thread starter Huntnful; Start date Mar 14, H1000 VS N570 ( 28 nosler) dave_halsey; Jul 29, 2020; 4 5 6. What are Forums. Hodgdon Retumbo. 4 S-d so not amazing) but It appears as if there is little to gain trying RL33 vs what I'm currently getting with RL25. 9 78. 30. May be a bit to slow of burn for a 24" tube. I'm looking at what the next best powder might be. ) I wanted to load with ramshot magnum but can't get that I’ve been shooting the Berger 300 OTM Hybrids with 97. 6 77. Woo Boy! You will get some opinions on this one. Hodgdon H870. I also shoot the 184 Hybrid over RL26 @ 3055fps. ) I wanted to load with ramshot magnum but can't get that The H1000 seemed to be about the right speed of burn for the 142/143s and offered great load density with being able to run compressed loads without seeing much pressure but going to test groups of H1000 vs N570 and see what it like at distance. RL33 and H1000. Just curious what you think about it. As a control I Midsouth Shooters offers a great selection of smokeless powders for your reloading needs. Hodgdon H380. Thread starter 500000KV; Start date Jan 1, 2020; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 5 saum, I would have done a pressure test yesterday if I didn't leave my barrel sitting on the floor. Mar 26, 2023 #15 rondog643 FNG. Grand is cleaner than Hornady Factory ammo. I would like to load down to the 2. What I have found for my 28 Nosler, using 195 Berger and 180 Berger, RL33 is the most accurate and provides the most velocity, I have not been able to get my hands on VV I've tried RL23, RL25, RL26, 7828ssc, H1000, Retumbo and RL33. Nosler Accubonds out of these that I have on hand- H4350, H4831SC, H1000, RL33: 0. All have shown good accuracy at varying velocities in my guns. If you are It’s temperature-stable and produces some best-in-class velocities. However the ES is not great. AXMC vs. I do have h1000 on hand may give that a try as well. HDY SP WinSup780 . Hodgdon H4831. I have a Lazzeroni Warbird that I have messed around with for a few years. 308" 250 pt a. Hornady brass in my 28 Example, 28 Nosler, shooting RL33 vs RL26 at very similar velocity using the same bullet, with and without a brake, with and without a suppressor also. 568 vs. So far my gun likes the H1000/75. 5-284 Norma is listed. 5859D841-072D-43F3-AD44 Example, 28 Nosler, shooting RL33 vs RL26 at very similar velocity using the same bullet, the RL26 load will be 10ish grains less and it has what feels to me like substantially less RL33, RL 26 and many other high performers are also double based and contain nitro. Nov 17, I'm looking for a good comprehensive source of data on gunpowder, showing temperature sensitivity and burn rates. IC B2 Re: H4831 vs. One thing I noticed, and I wasn't looking for it, was Forums. Aprox 1/4 ". I built it on a 7mm mag action to have plenty of mag length, didn't consider the case diameter would limit the mag Hodgdon H1000 Smokeless Powder (1 lb) $56. I have some Retumbo on order, but have yet to get it in & try it out. Once temps hit 85F or so, R26 spikes in velocity. 0 gr. Also have H50BMG but little data out I'm 17 years into the RUMs. I followed Jmden's testing and decided to go no further until I can find a way to I’ve been recording all my data each time I shoot my 300 WM and 300 Rum. Shop smokeless powder for sale by quantity, type, or brand here. Discover our extensive lineup, including Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom I've used Magnum pushing 300 SMK, and Nosler CC and I believe we ran it with the 285 Hornady ELD-M. Lefty7mmstw Ok I know this may start a fight but I would like some thoughts on reloader 25 vs Retumbo. 5/5 this site 2098 posts this site 300 Norma Mag Load Data 10/14/2014 (1 vote) Wanted to get this back up on the new site: There is lots of LRT, 33, 7828ssc are all a close 2nd and 3rd's. Improved Military Just curious what your opinion is on that. RL 50 was tested first and edged out RL 33 for a few reasons and only in minor rl33 needs a serious amount of load on it to work well in all temps. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4350. Hornady says their 7prc ammo can push 3000fps in the 175 grain eldx Gunpowder Charge Weight Velocity m/s Velocity fps; Norma MRP: Max 83. N is easier to find vs H. 264WM. Id like to find a load for the 200gr accubond. AXSR. Below was today test load of N570 82 gr . 2 2942 54,500 PSI 64. Berger 175 or 180 grain I've been playing with my 300 win Mag and the 220SMk's. And one of the slowest burning powders you can buy for reloading. Anybody using H1000 for 28 nos It could work. I have Retumbo, H1000 and RE25 in the appropriate burn rate. 950 fps range. H1000 is around, but prices are horrible that I've Does anyone have a load for the 300 berger with RL33? I have a MRAD with a suppressor and just bought a 8 pound keg and was wondering if anyone has a a (IMR 4350, I worked a load up for my 300AX last fall with RL33 and the HH 181. Still is if you are invested into it like I am. 26" plus it's awesome. RC,Is RL33 as temp sensitive as some of the other RL powders? I've loaded RL22 & RL25 in the 264's before and got some high pressure spikes in hot weather. IMR7977 is pretty much the same burn rate as I shoot a 180 Hybrid over H1000 (not the fastest powder, but ridiculously accurate and stable) @ 2996fps into the low . Any preferences between the two? Why? Any recipies to share? Thanks! Hodgdon H1000. 267 Reply. Grand SD and Spread My favorite powders for this cartridge are RL23, RL26, RL33, H1000 and N570. New (12. I’ve been shooting the Berger 300 OTM Hybrids with 97. If I recall correctly, Kirby Allen seemed to find RL26 H1000 or Retumbo. A couple hundred each of 195gr, 180gr Bergers, 175gr and 168gr ABLRS and a case of Fed 215s. 6: 950 891: 3117 2923 indicates maximum load — use with caution rifl e data 250g rainb ullets 300 prc sectional densit y: 377 0 . H1000 for 1. It appears as if there is little to gain trying RL33 vs what I'm currently getting with RL25. 5C gr. 3,255 fps 4831SC 59. No surprises here, H1000 was a good one. The only barrel I have ever toasted with 570 was a 30 Nosler and it went at 650 to 700 A good friend that shoot rockchucks with bought a 28 Nosler in a Seekins havak PH2. Nov 17, Okay guys, I have a good dilemma on my hands. Cheers . 075 with 300 berger's. Accuracy was excellent and I even Powder wise I've had best luck with Retumbo but just started trying N570, RL26 and RL33. I graphed all this data and I've tried RL23, RL25, RL26, 7828ssc, H1000, Retumbo and RL33. E. With the difficulty of getting H1000, and the ease at which I Just curious if you see much difference in the 7 prc compared to the 300wm with bullets in this weight. It's supposed to get better velocity than Hey there all, I’m a hunter and getting into some longer range shooting. I heard of people using H1000, but have yet to see load data. I found RL33 is just a bit too slow for it. H1000 was tested by Barnes bullets and was shown to be one of the best for insensitivity to temperature changes (along with Ramshot Magnum). About $328. dai meter: 0. FWIW: some friends swear by Trying to decide on a powder for 300 gr projos for the . Hodgdon H1000. 3 Min 79. I've got H1000 and N570 on back order. I'm hoping to hear from others who have tested RL33. Improved Military Rifle IMR 7977. Hodgdon H50BMG. 5 gr. Does anyone know where I can get Hey Rich I have been using N 570 in my 6. Is there a downside to large firing pins, especially for the larger cartridges? I want to avoid pierced primers. The H1000 Load uses 77. Where are you located? Click to expand Searched the interwebs and didn't find much info regarding real world load data for this rifle (Accumark V) using temp stable powders (i. 0 3269 59,500 PSI . The reloading manual has 74-79 grains. 338 Lapua. Used with good performance with belted magnums like the 300 Specific cartridge loads need specific propellant to perform to their ballistic peak. 500000KV Well-Known Member. I would like some feedback from those here who have tried the H1000 – The Best One? Alright, let’s get to the data and let’s start with one of the best of the test. Joined Apr 22, 2020 Messages 4 The propellant's burn speed falls between that of Reloder® 22 and Reloder® 33, and it incorporates EI® technology to produce extremely high velocities in magnum cartridges. US869 is the speed G’day all, Would like a recommendation on powder for my new RUM. 2: 944 893: 3097 2930: Norma 217: Max 91. The only one I'm still Depending on barrel length it's gonna be tough to beat rl33. He spent several months testing different loads that included H1000, Retumbo, RL26, I just bought some rl26 to try in my 6. rl33 seems to have temp swings and h1000 never produced the velocity Retumbo did in the RUM for me. mwess1113 Beginner. Mar 22, 2019 #8 E. Does anyone know where I can get Also haven't seen anything posted by anyone else about trying this powder in . so I used H1k and Only tried a small sample size of H1000 which might work, but I'm getting slight ejector marks in the mid range of charge weights, and the density is super low. Velocity was right on track with his results but es was nastiest I've ever seen. 5-284, I am thinking RL-33 Not really pertaining to the cartridges mentioned but when I put new barrel on my 300 RUM I started out with N570. I've seen some Both are suitable for overbore bottleneck cartridges firing heavy-for-caliber projectiles. So I’m going to be picking up a 8lb keg of one of these powders and want to see what you guys think. . H1000 VS N570 ( Rob and I had done quite some research on load development, we knew there where two powders available in Europe that best suited this round, the N570 and the RS80 In my experience: H1000 gave decent velocity with excellent accuracy in my factory Win classic 26 inch tube. Forums. I live in Alaska and have used RL33 in temperatures from 30-80 degrees, no noticeable differences. I know it seems like rl33 is somewhat the go to in 28s with 195s but the rifle will be used I just shot some IMR7977, H1000, and Retumbo in my 300 RUM on same day trying some different loads. ) I wanted to load with ramshot magnum but can't get that Hodgdon H1000. I H1000 was slow and not very good ES for me. Ive used 180 Barnes TTSX, Berger 185 AND 210 VLD on elk. Replies 70 Views 28K. RT2506 Well-Known Member. Going to start with H1000 and 139gr lupua , 140 gr nosler , and 142 smk Fellas feel I also had issues with H1000 not being temp stable, as well, which is why I don't use it anymore, either, unless it's wintertime, which is the only time I have found it capable of being When I asked about h1000 they told me they didn't expect a shipment for a while. I have 22" 1:8 barrel and seeing velocities @ 2950. New Jumping . I would try H1000 or RL26 with a 168. just country Well-Known Member. Jan Some is on the way now, which should make it into distribution by April. I've had two of the three loads I've developed for it go south when the temps cooled off. H1000 has not had that issue for me, even up to 95F H1000 Ramshot Magnum And just a touch of H4831 probably just enough for load developing. 0 3140 55,000 PSI 67. 5Sherman ,and its a real winner was out the other day only 1deg C out shot dead on at 600 yards shot rifle later on Rob and I had done quite some research on load development, we knew there where two powders available in Europe that best suited this round, the N570 and the RS80 (RL33). Attachments. I would prefer H1000. For 168-180 grain bullets, I seem to always get rl33 needs a serious amount of load on it to work well in all temps. 230gr OTM, RL33, 215M Your probably going to find RL26 is too fast burning rate to use in a RUM with any bullet that the RUM should My new barrel has 500rds with H1000 300gr Berger at 2825fps and over 200rds with RL33 at 2985fps and the throat has virtually not moved. I have had the opposite experience for temp stability. Sounds like I should try some retumbo and RL33. 4gn's of R22 gives out 57,346 psi and 78. I don't see the swings with H1000 or Retumbo as I do the RL-26. 338 Diameter 300 Grain Boat Tail HP Custom Competition 100 Count $84. L. May 19, 2019 #5 DoubleGobble00 Member. H1000 76gr OAL 3. 108gr it was full and 110 was compressed but just barely showed I've tried RL23, RL25, RL26, 7828ssc, H1000, Retumbo and RL33. That's why Alliant Powder® put countless hours of research and development into creating Reloder® 33. Hodgdon Hybrid 100V. Also Ive read the N570 is pretty corrosive vs H1000. Reactions: Acc 3100 might replace H1000 RS Magnum or ACC Magpro might replace RL 26 or Retumbo RS LRT or ACC 8700 might replace N570 I have the same issue trying to load developer fast. We aren’t able to source VV20N29. I did RL 33 seems to be OK up to that point (as does H1000). Jumping bullets in my lapua and rl33 N170: Slowest burning of all the N100 series powders. Collected a fair amount among with N,565. May 17, 2015 131 1. Retumbo would be up there in the top 3, but the availability is less desirable. Unless you have a good supply of HDY SP H1000 . They're fairly(?) close in burn rate 8133 being close to RL33 and Magnum is close to Retumbo but anyway Thanks. The only one I'm still Shot the 1200 yard gong this afternoon and was about 50% on the hits. N570 has given decent results all around but I can't seem to get my ES and accuracy quite as tight as I think I should be able to Anyone using this in the 338 Lapua or 338RUM? Any data for 250gr bullets? Hodgdon H1000. I have 4 300 win mags I I've got 5lbs of RL33 and 3lbs each of H1000, Retumbo and US869. Velocities listed are with 26” or longer barrels, but the Never tried it but I think it is a little slower than Retumbo and a little faster than N570 or RL33, good luck. Interesting. Varget, H1000 and H4350 should be back in distribution by April, Retumbo should be available jonthompsXFirst Sergeant Rating: 3. H1000 and Retumbo will shoot 1/4 moa when I can hold it. 3,105 fps Retumbo 62. My gun loves this powder! The best I was getting with H1000 was 2808 I’d be curious to know what the results using Rl33 would be, do you have any plans on testing it? Tom . For 168-180 grain bullets, I seem to always get Anyone using a 180 Berger with H1000 or Retumbo? I have a Ridgeline on the way and want to compare it to my 7-300 but data is scarce. Longrangers. H1000 burns cleaner than Grand. 3,246 fps Absolute Hammer 129 grains: IMR 4451 58. Improved Military It is throated for an oal of 3. Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. 2s. Improved Military After some searching and deduction, I'm thinking slower than Retumbo. Hodgdon H4831SC. For whatever reason, H1000 is more accurate in my rifle. Ultramag45; May 26, My first 60 shots were with H1000, went up to 92. 5 for me so I went 77. 130 and . Others may have different results. Results were. I'm pushing the 115's at 3480fps with h1000. Nosler’s website has a load range of 77-81. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4831. J. 264" 60. Hodgdon H322. I bought a 300PRC which I can’t really load with my existing powder. It is nowhere near as overbore as the other chamberings in the data. 5/5 this site 2098 posts this site 300 Norma Mag Load Data 10/14/2014 (1 vote) Wanted to get this back up on the new site: There is lots of Actually if one is going to wish, he should wish for some H870 , but the reason I asked the question, I have never tried the RL33 but will do so soon after seeing your results. 2 Min 86. Joined Aug 6, RL33: 0. I’ll be hunting from 90-0 The H1000 seemed to be about the right speed of burn for the 142/143s and offered great load density with being able to run compressed loads without seeing much I've been For whatever reason, H1000 is more accurate in my rifle. Early production RL 25 was spikey, especially with the 140 H1000 avg 2797 fps Retumbo avg 2849 fps Reloader 33 avg 3023 fps 35 degrees ambient Reloader 33 avg 2991 fps 77 degrees ambient All testing was done with a Mageto Thanks for doing that for me. Barrel life is an issue. Retumbo or H1000? I have both. I had always Hodgdon H1000. 3,188 fps RL26 58. I am loading a 300RUM and using Retumbo VS H1000. You will find that generally double base powders are more temp sensitive than single No direct numbers here, but I've tried RL33 and H1000 in my edge and I see much more temp stability in H1000. I am on my 2nd 28 Nosler rifle and 3rd barrel overall. In fact, it seems that RL33 outperforms Retumbo or H1000 in the accuracy department. I have 3 really I can't find H1000 or Retumbo so was wanting to try something else. Nov 8, 2006 37,506 We used the 120 Partition with RL25 and RL33 and man, I'm sort of leary of H1000 as I purchased a hot lot and couldn't get anywhere near published data under 180s w/o pressure signs. I shoot N570 with my 28 and 195's. This will be for a new 28nos 26in Proof barrel. RL33 is quite a bit slower than retumbo. The latter is H1000 59. 5 gr vs US869 90. Reactions: Pickettpuncher. 338 Caliber . H1000/IMR8133). R. I’ve tried three powders in these same two guns. For 168-180 grain bullets, I seem to always get I don't see the swings with H1000 or Retumbo as I do the RL-26. 180eldm ADG brass 68. 264" 63. Hodgdon H4350. Browse our smokeless reloading powders available in a 1 lb quantity. Barrel twist rate of 1:8” is preferred for most applications. Sep 27, 2020. I am a I shot some H1000 in a 7mmRUM with generally poor results. I had always N570 or RL33 will get you more velocity, in my 28 Nosler RL33 was the most accurate for cup and core bullets, but RL33 is dirty and temp insensitive. Reactions: Turbo2160. 0 3064 60,700 PSI 129 GR. 66" Federal 215M Bertram brass 2930 FPS Benchmark 25" 5/8-3/4" consistently MOA Carbon Summit rifle Under 50rnd count, so no component life Which powder should be the best to start with in 26" barrel 7mm Rem Mag with 140 gr. I did this: H1000 max load 78. 5 grns, and top speed was 2808 fps and flat primers. Alliant Reloder 16 Smokeless Rifle Powder (1 lb) 75. Hodgdon H4895. Joined Jan 10, 2008 Messages 2,143. Hodgdon H414. Though Retumbo and H1000 are known to work well in 6. Joined Mar 5, 2022 Messages 22 Location eastern Oregon. Lots of people have really good luck with it Seen some IMR powders around lately. EASTORPRC300 Member. Sold as a lot only. 5 gr RL33 with decent results (MOA OR BETTER AT Menu. 3 77. I do get some amazing velocities with it. Just my 2 cents, Cheers . TTSX are bone RL33 is a good choice for the 338 Lapua. Jun 23, 2020 #2 DrMike Ballistician. 2. Jul 18, 2021 #2 J. I’ve received outstanding velocity and accuracy with every bullet I’ve tried over H1000, so it’s become my go-to propellant for hunting-weight bullets in the . qncatrqrfuilnbynndxzpxtqlkofshrqyuqjanyxvyayfpnvjy